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Post by mrpib on Apr 30, 2018 20:41:53 GMT -6
I understand why there are so many hotels in McAllen (for the mexican nationals coming to shop and dine), but why so many hotels in Edinburg? And adding new ones? Edinburg is far enough removed from McAllen that there shouldn't be any hotels geared to the shoppers and diners from Mexico? There aren't any unique stores in Edinburg and other than Bob's Steak House, no unique dining areas either? The hotel developers are just cannibalizing each other now. I'm pretty sure for edinburg the hotels are positioning themselves for the new arena. Just about all of the new hotels are about a block or 2 from the arena. HEB park will help fill them as well. I'm thinking the hotels are trying to open up right as all the artist start announcing their new tour dates, which would be around a year from now. That's when the arena can really fill out a whole schedule.
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Post by Minion on May 1, 2018 8:50:22 GMT -6
I understand why there are so many hotels in McAllen (for the mexican nationals coming to shop and dine), but why so many hotels in Edinburg? And adding new ones? Edinburg is far enough removed from McAllen that there shouldn't be any hotels geared to the shoppers and diners from Mexico? There aren't any unique stores in Edinburg and other than Bob's Steak House, no unique dining areas either? The hotel developers are just cannibalizing each other now. I'm pretty sure for edinburg the hotels are positioning themselves for the new arena. Just about all of the new hotels are about a block or 2 from the arena. HEB park will help fill them as well. I'm thinking the hotels are trying to open up right as all the artist start announcing their new tour dates, which would be around a year from now. That's when the arena can really fill out a whole schedule. I've often wondered myself about these hotels... why for the new arena or HEB Park? The locals going to the shows or games or ? will not be staying in Hotels. They're driving in from McAllen or Pharr or Alamo, etc. Yes, the road crews or artists or players will stay in a hotel but not enough of them come for a show to fill 5 new hotels?
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Post by vyzee on May 1, 2018 15:01:22 GMT -6
I'm pretty sure for edinburg the hotels are positioning themselves for the new arena. Just about all of the new hotels are about a block or 2 from the arena. HEB park will help fill them as well. I'm thinking the hotels are trying to open up right as all the artist start announcing their new tour dates, which would be around a year from now. That's when the arena can really fill out a whole schedule. I've often wondered myself about these hotels... why for the new arena or HEB Park? The locals going to the shows or games or ? will not be staying in Hotels. They're driving in from McAllen or Pharr or Alamo, etc. Yes, the road crews or artists or players will stay in a hotel but not enough of them come for a show to fill 5 new hotels? I think some of those hotel rooms may also have to deal with UTRGV when they have speakers from around the country having presentations or when sports teams from far away play against UTRGV. I also think that some of this hotel space is trying to court the Mexican visitors who might spend a couple of nights doing various things around town (if there is stuff to do there) for stuff like (mentioned before) retail and events.
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Post by Minion on May 1, 2018 15:20:49 GMT -6
I've often wondered myself about these hotels... why for the new arena or HEB Park? The locals going to the shows or games or ? will not be staying in Hotels. They're driving in from McAllen or Pharr or Alamo, etc. Yes, the road crews or artists or players will stay in a hotel but not enough of them come for a show to fill 5 new hotels? I think some of those hotel rooms may also have to deal with UTRGV when they have speakers from around the country having presentations or when sports teams from far away play against UTRGV. I also think that some of this hotel space is trying to court the Mexican visitors who might spend a couple of nights doing various things around town (if there is stuff to do there) for stuff like (mentioned before) retail and events. Nah. I don't buy that. That's not enough people to sustain all those new hotels. Mexican Shoppers stay in McAllen where the shopping is good. Not Edinburg or Pharr or Mission unless they're sold out in McAllen. Retail in Edinburg is not destination shopping. They have the same stores every other city in the area has. Other than JCPenney and Academy at the Shoppes (which are in other cities too), it's all reject stores like Ross, TJMaxx, Marshalls, Big Lots, Burke's. Yeah, they're popular and Mexican Nationals love them but they're not destination shopping. Look at the State Farm Arena ... how many hotels have opened up around it after 20 years? Exactly one Super8 and i'll venture to guess that they're lonely out there. lol Edinburg is over-building hotels. They might do well around the months that we get a glut of National Guards or DPS surges when many hotels are full, but otherwise? Good luck to them.
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Post by mrpib on May 1, 2018 17:25:13 GMT -6
I'm pretty sure for edinburg the hotels are positioning themselves for the new arena. Just about all of the new hotels are about a block or 2 from the arena. HEB park will help fill them as well. I'm thinking the hotels are trying to open up right as all the artist start announcing their new tour dates, which would be around a year from now. That's when the arena can really fill out a whole schedule. I've often wondered myself about these hotels... why for the new arena or HEB Park? The locals going to the shows or games or ? will not be staying in Hotels. They're driving in from McAllen or Pharr or Alamo, etc. Yes, the road crews or artists or players will stay in a hotel but not enough of them come for a show to fill 5 new hotels? It really depends on the caliber of acts they bring in and how often. HEB park wants to host these concacaf tournaments. They are getting to host one for the womens but if they were able to do that for the men's then the city will see a huge amount of non-valley people coming in for a whole week. Same story if Bruno mars played at the arena even though that would only be a 1 day thing. It helps that we're kind of far from San antonio, Corpus, and Larado so you can't just drive back the same night. That's what I think is what's going in the minds of these hotel owners. It has to be. It costs 8 million to start up a home2 suites. I doubt people are gonna drop that amount of money if they don't know what going to happen. I do think the county is going to have to many rooms. We might see more of what happened to the drury inn.
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Post by miles on May 2, 2018 7:53:22 GMT -6
I think some of those hotel rooms may also have to deal with UTRGV when they have speakers from around the country having presentations or when sports teams from far away play against UTRGV. I also think that some of this hotel space is trying to court the Mexican visitors who might spend a couple of nights doing various things around town (if there is stuff to do there) for stuff like (mentioned before) retail and events. Nah. I don't buy that. That's not enough people to sustain all those new hotels. Mexican Shoppers stay in McAllen where the shopping is good. Not Edinburg or Pharr or Mission unless they're sold out in McAllen. Retail in Edinburg is not destination shopping. They have the same stores every other city in the area has. Other than JCPenney and Academy at the Shoppes (which are in other cities too), it's all reject stores like Ross, TJMaxx, Marshalls, Big Lots, Burke's. Yeah, they're popular and Mexican Nationals love them but they're not destination shopping. Look at the State Farm Arena ... how many hotels have opened up around it after 20 years? Exactly one Super8 and i'll venture to guess that they're lonely out there. lol Edinburg is over-building hotels. They might do well around the months that we get a glut of National Guards or DPS surges when many hotels are full, but otherwise? Good luck to them. EXACTLY Minion!
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Post by miles on May 2, 2018 7:55:56 GMT -6
I've often wondered myself about these hotels... why for the new arena or HEB Park? The locals going to the shows or games or ? will not be staying in Hotels. They're driving in from McAllen or Pharr or Alamo, etc. Yes, the road crews or artists or players will stay in a hotel but not enough of them come for a show to fill 5 new hotels? It really depends on the caliber of acts they bring in and how often. HEB park wants to host these concacaf tournaments. They are getting to host one for the womens but if they were able to do that for the men's then the city will see a huge amount of non-valley people coming in for a whole week. Same story if Bruno mars played at the arena even though that would only be a 1 day thing. It helps that we're kind of far from San antonio, Corpus, and Larado so you can't just drive back the same night. That's what I think is what's going in the minds of these hotel owners. It has to be. It costs 8 million to start up a home2 suites. I doubt people are gonna drop that amount of money if they don't know what going to happen. I do think the county is going to have to many rooms. We might see more of what happened to the drury inn. That takes us back to the fact that NONE of that ever happened with State Farm Arena over the last 20 years, except for ONE hotel. And they've had some huge acts come down (Elton John, Cher, etc.) What makes this arena so different that it would attract that many new hotels? And seriously. San Antonio, Corpus and even Laredo will get acts we can only dream of. The new arena should have been much bigger to attract high caliber acts with huge followings.
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Post by mrpib on May 2, 2018 14:39:23 GMT -6
It really depends on the caliber of acts they bring in and how often. HEB park wants to host these concacaf tournaments. They are getting to host one for the womens but if they were able to do that for the men's then the city will see a huge amount of non-valley people coming in for a whole week. Same story if Bruno mars played at the arena even though that would only be a 1 day thing. It helps that we're kind of far from San antonio, Corpus, and Larado so you can't just drive back the same night. That's what I think is what's going in the minds of these hotel owners. It has to be. It costs 8 million to start up a home2 suites. I doubt people are gonna drop that amount of money if they don't know what going to happen. I do think the county is going to have to many rooms. We might see more of what happened to the drury inn. That takes us back to the fact that NONE of that ever happened with State Farm Arena over the last 20 years, except for ONE hotel. And they've had some huge acts come down (Elton John, Cher, etc.) What makes this arena so different that it would attract that many new hotels? And seriously. San Antonio, Corpus and even Laredo will get acts we can only dream of. The new arena should have been much bigger to attract high caliber acts with huge followings. SFA didn't have a partnership with livenation. From my understanding BOA doesn't have to go out and attract these acts. Livenation does that. Nothing happened in Hidalgo because its Hidalgo. Over there if your an investor you would have to be the first one to make the jump since nothing is close to SFA. You're also investing in the city. Look at the outlets. Out of the way with nothing being built around it. Investing in Hidalgo and Mercedes are the last things I would want to do. Mcallen, Edinburg, Pharr, Harlingen, Brownsville, that's where you want to put your money. For the hotels we're not talking about 1000 room hotels here. The 2 new ones being built are only 98 and 91 rooms.
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Post by Minion on Jul 18, 2018 12:55:53 GMT -6
Edinburg getting TWO new Hilton HotelsEDINBURG, RGV: Edinburg will have two new Hilton hotels very soon, says Mayor Richard Molina.
The hotels are being built on Trenton Road, not far from the new Bert Ogden Arena. The location is not accidental, the mayor told the Rio Grande Guardian, in an exclusive interview. “They are going to compliment each other. One of the restaurants that has been named (as part of the hotel plaza) besides the Way-On’s is an eatery where they will have a view of Trenton, so they will be able to see all the traffic coming to and from the Arena,” Molina said. In fact, the top sports and music artists that will perform at the Bert Ogden Arena will likely stay at one of the new Hilton hotels, the mayor predicted. riograndeguardian.com/molina-edinburg-is-getting-two-new-hilton-hotels/
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Post by mrpib on Jul 18, 2018 20:19:26 GMT -6
Edinburg getting TWO new Hilton HotelsEDINBURG, RGV: Edinburg will have two new Hilton hotels very soon, says Mayor Richard Molina.
The hotels are being built on Trenton Road, not far from the new Bert Ogden Arena. The location is not accidental, the mayor told the Rio Grande Guardian, in an exclusive interview. “They are going to compliment each other. One of the restaurants that has been named (as part of the hotel plaza) besides the Way-On’s is an eatery where they will have a view of Trenton, so they will be able to see all the traffic coming to and from the Arena,” Molina said. In fact, the top sports and music artists that will perform at the Bert Ogden Arena will likely stay at one of the new Hilton hotels, the mayor predicted. riograndeguardian.com/molina-edinburg-is-getting-two-new-hilton-hotels/ Molina really thinks these high profile people that get catered to on a daily basis are really going to stay in a home2 suites or tru lol. Nah they're going to renaissance in Mcallen. Looks like the way ons is on the west side of closner. I thought it was on the east side. One of the other restaurants that's going in that plaza is Kumori. Noma studio has it on their website. I was hoping the eyesore of a warehouse on that corner would be gone. I guess not.
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