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Post by 956dna on Jan 8, 2024 17:53:05 GMT -6
Nope. Absolutely not, and Hidalgo county residents should feel the same - we can "collaborate" without merging/pooling tax $. Mr. Spamer ALREADY wants to tell Cameron County cities what to do. We don't need to merge EDCs - the Port of Brownsville is working on additional large-scale projects that require hundreds of acres adjacent to a deep-sea port, which Hidalgo County doesn't have. Hidalgo county should merge their EDCs first - let's see how that works out - but y'all know that will never happen. RGV would have tens of millions of dollars to help recruit new business if its EDCs joined forces
riograndeguardian.com/rgv-would-have-tens-of-millions-of-dollars-to-help-recruit-new-business-if-its-edcs-joined-forces/
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Post by Granolabright on Jan 8, 2024 18:25:37 GMT -6
Mr.Spammer should of hve opened his business in Cameron county. There are more assets that will financially support the RGV. But he is not from McAllen or Mission but the RGV.. the mid valley DOESN'T represent the whole RGV. We hve tourism, 2 beaches, deep seaport, and soon to be 4 ports of entry from Mexico. We are a green city , top 10 zoo in the nation. National parks, hike n bike trails. Our ties to our Mexican culture are stronger and our charro days is a reflection of that... all this the middle valley is trying to replicate... Mr Spammer is only interested and wants his business to succeed in an area that is landlocked. BRO can grow north, south, east and west. Brownsville has lots of land to develop.. who has the advantages here??
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Post by miles on Jan 9, 2024 8:12:29 GMT -6
Nope. Absolutely not, and Hidalgo county residents should feel the same - we can "collaborate" without merging/pooling tax $. Mr. Spamer ALREADY wants to tell Cameron County cities what to do. We don't need to merge EDCs - the Port of Brownsville is working on additional large-scale projects that require hundreds of acres adjacent to a deep-sea port, which Hidalgo County doesn't have. Hidalgo county should merge their EDCs first - let's see how that works out - but y'all know that will never happen. RGV would have tens of millions of dollars to help recruit new business if its EDCs joined forces
riograndeguardian.com/rgv-would-have-tens-of-millions-of-dollars-to-help-recruit-new-business-if-its-edcs-joined-forces/Yes~! It worked out great for the MPOs! and the University!
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Post by btx on Jan 9, 2024 9:10:48 GMT -6
Nope. Absolutely not, and Hidalgo county residents should feel the same - we can "collaborate" without merging/pooling tax $. Mr. Spamer ALREADY wants to tell Cameron County cities what to do. We don't need to merge EDCs - the Port of Brownsville is working on additional large-scale projects that require hundreds of acres adjacent to a deep-sea port, which Hidalgo County doesn't have. Hidalgo county should merge their EDCs first - let's see how that works out - but y'all know that will never happen. RGV would have tens of millions of dollars to help recruit new business if its EDCs joined forces
riograndeguardian.com/rgv-would-have-tens-of-millions-of-dollars-to-help-recruit-new-business-if-its-edcs-joined-forces/Yes~! It worked out great for the MPOs! and the University! Not the UTRGV. There's so much inequality between Edinburg and Brownsville. Example are the number and size of buildings being built in both campuses, upper classes mostly offered at Edinburg so Brownsville students and staff are the ones traveling north, events mostly held in upper valley, Where's the new football stadium going to be...yup...upper valley. It was even mentioned that most games will be help in the upper valley and maybe one in Brownsville. Most degreed programs are in Edinburg. So no, didn't work for Brownsville and still doesn't. Example is the Engineering and Social Work program. Mainly in Edinburg.
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Post by miles on Jan 9, 2024 9:17:18 GMT -6
Yes~! It worked out great for the MPOs! and the University! Not the UTRGV. There's so much inequality between Edinburg and Brownsville. Example are the number and size of buildings being built in both campuses, upper classes mostly offered at Edinburg so Brownsville students and staff are the ones traveling north, events mostly held in upper valley, Where's the new football stadium going to be...yup...upper valley. It was even mentioned that most games will be help in the upper valley and maybe one in Brownsville. Most degreed programs are in Edinburg. So no, didn't work for Brownsville and still doesn't. Example is the Engineering and Social Work program. Mainly in Edinburg. Most of those things (classes & degree programs) were already in Edinburg. Pan Am, UT-PA were historically big on Engineering - always among the best in the state. Has had its own buildings for decades. It wouldn't make sense to move them to Brownsville. Brownsville piggy-backed onto Edinburg. It was never going to be two equal campuses. That makes no financial sense.
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Post by btx on Jan 9, 2024 10:58:02 GMT -6
Not the UTRGV. There's so much inequality between Edinburg and Brownsville. Example are the number and size of buildings being built in both campuses, upper classes mostly offered at Edinburg so Brownsville students and staff are the ones traveling north, events mostly held in upper valley, Where's the new football stadium going to be...yup...upper valley. It was even mentioned that most games will be help in the upper valley and maybe one in Brownsville. Most degreed programs are in Edinburg. So no, didn't work for Brownsville and still doesn't. Example is the Engineering and Social Work program. Mainly in Edinburg. Most of those things (classes & degree programs) were already in Edinburg. Pan Am, UT-PA were historically big on Engineering - always among the best in the state. Has had its own buildings for decades. It wouldn't make sense to move them to Brownsville. Brownsville piggy-backed onto Edinburg. It was never going to be two equal campuses. That makes no financial sense. From the get go the politicians that were pushing the merger promised that both campuses would have the same programs, infrastructure, etc. I remember all the promises and then when Dr. Bailey came in also made similar promises. So yeah, merger wan NOT good for Brownsville, regardless of what UT-PanAm was. In any case, it is what it is. I have proposed an idea to the Brownsville commission of having TSC sell the main campus and from the money from the sell move and invest in the Amigoland area. TSC would have a large campus in that area with plenty of parking. The Dillard's section is still empty and plenty of land around to expand if necessary. This way UTRGV can double the campus sze and offer more of the programs currently offered only at Edinburg.
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Post by Minion on Jan 9, 2024 13:00:49 GMT -6
Most of those things (classes & degree programs) were already in Edinburg. Pan Am, UT-PA were historically big on Engineering - always among the best in the state. Has had its own buildings for decades. It wouldn't make sense to move them to Brownsville. Brownsville piggy-backed onto Edinburg. It was never going to be two equal campuses. That makes no financial sense. From the get go the politicians that were pushing the merger promised that both campuses would have the same programs, infrastructure, etc. I remember all the promises and then when Dr. Bailey came in also made similar promises. So yeah, merger wan NOT good for Brownsville, regardless of what UT-PanAm was. In any case, it is what it is. I have proposed an idea to the Brownsville commission of having TSC sell the main campus and from the money from the sell move and invest in the Amigoland area. TSC would have a large campus in that area with plenty of parking. The Dillard's section is still empty and plenty of land around to expand if necessary. This way UTRGV can double the campus sze and offer more of the programs currently offered only at Edinburg. I don't remember discussions going that route. It was always Edinburg being the main campus with it's main degree programs ..and Brownsville the satellite with different degree options so as to not overlap or have to have faculty have to go back and forth. I remember talk of video conferencing some classes too. Do you really see a need for another full fledged campus? None of the UT campuses have satelitte campuses. People still drive in from miles away for classes. Why not us? If an Edinburg student wants to go into nursing, they drive to Brownsville. When I lived in Southwest Austin, I still drove X miles to downtown for classes. Even went south to SWTSU for a semester in San Marcos. People from say Spring, drive to U of H south of downtown Houston too. etc. I just don't see the justification of double buildings, faculty, electricity, land, etc. just to save some driving. If the roles were reversed and Brownsville was the main campus, I would just drive to Brownsville.... just like I did in Austin.
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Post by btx on Jan 9, 2024 14:00:18 GMT -6
From the get go the politicians that were pushing the merger promised that both campuses would have the same programs, infrastructure, etc. I remember all the promises and then when Dr. Bailey came in also made similar promises. So yeah, merger wan NOT good for Brownsville, regardless of what UT-PanAm was. In any case, it is what it is. I have proposed an idea to the Brownsville commission of having TSC sell the main campus and from the money from the sell move and invest in the Amigoland area. TSC would have a large campus in that area with plenty of parking. The Dillard's section is still empty and plenty of land around to expand if necessary. This way UTRGV can double the campus sze and offer more of the programs currently offered only at Edinburg. I don't remember discussions going that route. It was always Edinburg being the main campus with it's main degree programs ..and Brownsville the satellite with different degree options so as to not overlap or have to have faculty have to go back and forth. I remember talk of video conferencing some classes too. Do you really see a need for another full fledged campus? None of the UT campuses have satelitte campuses. People still drive in from miles away for classes. Why not us? If an Edinburg student wants to go into nursing, they drive to Brownsville. When I lived in Southwest Austin, I still drove X miles to downtown for classes. Even went south to SWTSU for a semester in San Marcos. People from say Spring, drive to U of H south of downtown Houston too. etc. I just don't see the justification of double buildings, faculty, electricity, land, etc. just to save some driving. If the roles were reversed and Brownsville was the main campus, I would just drive to Brownsville.... just like I did in Austin. I do remember those discussions of equal campuses but can no longer find the articles online. But that's all water under the bridge. Hopefully with SpaceX and LNGs will help bring more infrastructure, programs and staff/students to Brownsville. No reason why we can't have a full fledged campus. Maybe one day Texas A&M will build a campus in Brownsville like they did in McAllen. I did my bachelors at UTB/TSC and had a great physics/engineering program with lots of incredible research. I did a summer internship at UTB for the Gravitational Wave Astronomy and couldn't believe the amount of research, staff and students it brought to Brownsville. Now a lot of that went to Edinburg. Such a shame. Would like to see Brownsville bring back a lot of that research cuz that's where the money is for universities.
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Post by Minion on Jan 9, 2024 14:56:36 GMT -6
I don't remember discussions going that route. It was always Edinburg being the main campus with it's main degree programs ..and Brownsville the satellite with different degree options so as to not overlap or have to have faculty have to go back and forth. I remember talk of video conferencing some classes too. Do you really see a need for another full fledged campus? None of the UT campuses have satelitte campuses. People still drive in from miles away for classes. Why not us? If an Edinburg student wants to go into nursing, they drive to Brownsville. When I lived in Southwest Austin, I still drove X miles to downtown for classes. Even went south to SWTSU for a semester in San Marcos. People from say Spring, drive to U of H south of downtown Houston too. etc. I just don't see the justification of double buildings, faculty, electricity, land, etc. just to save some driving. If the roles were reversed and Brownsville was the main campus, I would just drive to Brownsville.... just like I did in Austin. I do remember those discussions of equal campuses but can no longer find the articles online. But that's all water under the bridge. Hopefully with SpaceX and LNGs will help bring more infrastructure, programs and staff/students to Brownsville. No reason why we can't have a full fledged campus. Maybe one day Texas A&M will build a campus in Brownsville like they did in McAllen. I did my bachelors at UTB/TSC and had a great physics/engineering program with lots of incredible research. I did a summer internship at UTB for the Gravitational Wave Astronomy and couldn't believe the amount of research, staff and students it brought to Brownsville. Now a lot of that went to Edinburg. Such a shame. Would like to see Brownsville bring back a lot of that research cuz that's where the money is for universities. You're right. What's done is done. Where's the Law School going to go? lol I often wonder about that McAllen A&M campus - I don't know anyone who's sent their kids there. Not a soul. It hasn't grown or expanded since it was built. It's literally in the boonies - waaaayyyyyyyyyyyyy out north. Maybe only people that live in Tres Lagos send their kids there. lol Even The King has fought with A&M. It wouldn't surprise me to see them uproot and close up shop one day.
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Post by Granolabright on Jan 9, 2024 18:03:07 GMT -6
Yeah.. i remember mr. Bailey saying that both campuses would hve the same courses ..on and off campus(online).. UTB had a few programs that were going somewhere.. i remember our chess team winning nationals, and our volleyball team.. they only enhanced the status of UTRGV at the Edinburgh level... like i said the middle valley wants to take control of everything in a 50mile radius... Merged the local newspaper.. to McAllen, UTPAN/UTB to most ly Edinburgh , MPOs to what Pharr or Edinburgh... and now they want EDCs to where weslaco??? Want to promote the RGV as whole but want the development to happen mostly in the middle/upper valley... so pathetic and hypocritical indeed.. we all know and those city leaders know that alot of that growth is gonna happen down here with LNG , SPACEX.. its happening already.. they just want some more state funding and more .. that's why mr. Spammer "urge" to merger the EDCs
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